Last week, Helen Thomas, the long-time political writer, most recently for Hearst Publishing, retired at the age of eighty-nine. It would not be a stretch to call her retirement “forced”, coming as it did a few days after the emergence of a video of an informal interview in which Thomas asserts that Jews in Israel should return to their homes in Germany and Poland.
Or such would be the lead-in paragraph, for many news services.
The problem with that paragraph is its inaccuracy. For those afraid of the dreaded hyperlink, what follows is a transcript of the exchange between Thomas and interviewer David Nesenoff:
Nesenoff: Any comments on Israel? We’re asking everybody today–
Thomas: Tell them to get the hell out of Palestine.
Nesenoff: Ooh. Any better comments?
Thomas: Remember, these people are occupied, and it’s their land, not German and not Polish.
Nesenoff: So where should they go? What should they do?
Thomas: They should go home.
Nesenoff: Where is home?
Thomas: Poland. Germany.
Nesenoff: So you’re saying the Jews should go back to Poland and Germany?
Thomas: And America, and everywhere else.
The response to the Thomas interview was less a reaction and more a reaction to a reaction, with the prevailing debate being whether Thomas should be fired by Hearst. Those who read articles about the interview were quick to call Thomas’s opinions anti-Semitic. Even many who came to her defense called her remarks indefensible, which is a paradox I’ve yet to unwind.
As far as this writer can tell, Thomas’s remarks were not anti-Semitic. The debate of whether or not Israelis are entitled to land granted to them sixty years ago by an international contingent would remain a valid one even if those Israelis weren’t consistently involved in deadly and antagonistic incidents with their neighbors.
But I’m not writing about Helen Thomas. I’m writing about the power of spin and timing and the suppression of reasonable debate.
For your consideration:
On May 30, Israeli forces were involved in a deadly assault on a Palestinian flotilla meant to draw attention to the Israeli naval blockade of Gaza.
The Thomas interview was done on May 27, three days before the Flotilla Fiasco, but not posted until a few days after it.
The “interviewer” is a rabbi. For the uninitiated, heads of religious orders are not often unbiased in the views they’d like to advance about those religious orders.
Add a dash of YouTube, the magic of the 24-hour news cycle and voila! Any debate over the flotilla in Gaza is quickly lost in the furor over Helen Thomas’s views.
Former White House press secretary Ari Fleischer, on Thomas:
“She should lose her job over this,” Fleischer said. “As someone who is Jewish, and as someone who worked with her and used to like her, I find this appalling.
“She is advocating religious cleansing. How can Hearst stand by her? If a journalist, or a columnist, said the same thing about blacks or Hispanics, they would already have lost their jobs.”
In the United States, we’ve long been taught to side blindly with Israel. The Israelis, so the story went, were a long-suffering people who’d finally been given a homeland and, once there, had transformed what had been a desert into a successful civilization, filled with bountiful farms and free-thinking people. The US supported Israel because it was the right thing to do.
The truth isn’t so rosy. Arguably, Israel is better off than its neighbors. But it also has a tendency to piss off those neighbors, many of whom resent American support of a Jewish state in their midst, seeing that support for what it probably is: A way for the US to maintain a military presence in a region it needs to watch over, because that region has oil underneath it.
From there, we could get into whether or not the Israelis actually want to get along with their neighbors because, when you think about it, they actually need the rest of the Middle East to hate the US because then the US needs the Israelis and if the US didn’t need them, those same Middle Easterners might invoke the law of the jungle that is enacted when you continually annoy your neighbors and those neighbors have a population that dwarfs yours by about 20 to 1…
But you’d probably get bored and go off and start looking for girl-on-girl porn, so I’ll get back to the point.
The Helen Thomas controversy was a gold mine for Israelis and Zionists. It distracted outsiders from the flotilla and allowed them to concentrate on an issue they could deal with. Namely, whether or not the old lady on their computer screens is a racist or not. Granted, that issue is a hot one in its own right. But it’s one that is easily managed, intellectually. If you haven’t, take a look at the video. (I’ll give you another chance.) It’s easy to vilify Helen Thomas. She’s 89! She’s ugly! There’s no reason to support her – she’s going to die soon and be ugly inside a casket!
In having the debate of whether Helen Thomas should be fired, people were distracted from the real debate, which is whether Israel was right or wrong in the Flotilla Fiasco and, on a larger scale, whether Israel is right or wrong in general.
This is a conversation that Israel desperately does not want the world to have, especially in today’s political climate; Barack Obama has been as hard on Israel as any American president and now that we have things like the Internet and camera phones, it’s much harder for the powers-that-be to convince us that we should support Israel unquestioningly.
If I were to write up an essay about my opinions of the Israeli/Palestinian conflict, my thesis would be that both sides are assholes, but that we should be able to say that. (You can use “jerks”, if you prefer.) My advice, though, to Jewish people, from an outsider’s perspective, is that it starts to look a little suspicious when people are ground into public relations dust when they express an opinion to a man holding a video camera. And, while many people won’t actually view the video in question and will take on faith the judgment that the woman expressing the sentiments is a dyed-in-the-wool, genuine Jew-hater, there are those of us who will think for ourselves, consider the dates and the times and the political benefit to one side or the other and who will think,
What are you trying to hide?
The only way to solve anything in Palestine will be through open debate. The “here, have a cookie and shut up” strategy lampooned effectively by comedian David Cross won’t work forever. Eventually, people start to connect the dots and see that the side they once thought to be above reproach is actually just as mean-spirited and power-hungry as the other.
Helen Thomas wasn’t the story. Helen Thomas was just a fall girl that allowed a people – whether that people is made up of Israelis, Palestinians, Jewish Americans or Arab-Americans – to cover up the fact that they are unable to have a reasoned discussion on an important issue.
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Don’t say Israel is arguably better off than the countries around them. They are much better off. They also have a legitimate democracy and are a modernized country in general.
Also, I don’t really think that US is allied with Israel because we need them. We are allied with them because they are reasonable people. I believe they want peace and have proved that by giving up land and aid to Palestinians despite the fact that they are still attacked by people who use ambulances to run weapons and hide military bases in schools and hospitals.
People can criticize the blockade and the wall and the checkpoints but the bottom line is that they have stopped terrorist attacks. If this was the case inside the US, nobody would argue.
shame that you don’t heed your own call and explore any facts about the flotilla incident.
falling victim to, as you so wisely put it, “a dash of YouTube, the magic of the 24-hour news cycle and voila!”
Unfortunate and woefully uninformed, Paul.
I recommend reading up on what happened to Jews who went back to Poland, Germany, etc. after WWII to see how they were received. To save you the suspense, they were murdered.
Support of Israel’s right to exist doesn’t mean an unquestioning approval of every government policy or activity — just as support of the US doesn’t mean a blanket support for the Bush White House, Obama, the Arizona legislature, etc. Helen Thomas wasn’t questioning policy — she was arguing against Israel’s legitimacy as a nation. It’s very poorly veiled “they should go back where they came from” anti-semitism.
The flotilla tragedy was a failure of Israeli intelligence as well as a tactical and political blunder. However, it was quite clearly not simply a “deadly assault on Palestinian flotilla.” It saddens me that a free thinker like you would draw such a distorted and overly simplistic conclusion. I recommend this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eb-G1PlFGIs) as it will hopefully give you a broader understanding of the issues at hand. I’m not saying it’s gospel, but I do believe it’s a lot more fair than most of what has been reported.
Helen Thomas has a history of anti-Semitic remarks and of accusing Israeli’s of every crime short of genocide. This was not some off the cuff remark from her. With her history, this remark is much more likely her accidently letting slip her true feelings. And, by the way, Israel has been the homeland of the Jewish people for much longer than 60 years. It was not arbitrarily granted to them, it was chosen for a reason.
Paul, you’re a real douche juice. Inform yourself before you publish your ignorant views.
Paul,
Thomas is an asshole, or jerk, if you prefer. But she shouldn’t have been fired for her idiotic comments, no more than ESPN should have let you got for your essay on Haiti (which I thought was thought provoking and an important part of the debate that had been largely ignored.
I understand where you were going with this article, but I think it would have benefitted from a more explicitly stated understanding of what that flotilla was all about. I don’t think the Israelis wanted people to ignore the facts of the case — in fact, they probably believe they would benefit from a deeper public understanding of the flotilla’s purpose and who was actually on the boats.
Luckily, pragmatism, you do as well. :-) But you’re one person?! HOW YOU DOES IT?!
Can’t we all just admit that it is a ridiculous notion to claim rights to a geographical location on a work of fiction and then using that claim as a justification to re-establish a country is absurd?
Weren’t the Jews in Israel attacked by five surrounding Arab countries in 1947 after the U.N. voted to divide the country?
And didn’t the Jews beat them all down and drive them away to establish their own country?
And haven’t they made provisions to the Palestinians over the years that have never been adhered to?
And don’t the Palestinians continue to live by a code that denies the right for a Jewish state to exist?
Guest: I don’t think you can have a “legitimate” democracy when the Palestinian population is denied the vote.
Alec: If you read your Torah, Israel became the Jewish homeland through genocide. So, while it might be the one crime Thomas didn’t accuse the Jewish people of, it may be the one they are most forced to accept.
In the end, I stand by my position expressed on Here’s What to Think, the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is bad, and I’m against it.
BL1Y-
Um… no. Palestinians are allowed to vote in Israel. They have a political party and seats in parliament. Look it up. On the other hand, if any Israelis stepped foot in about 12 of the 15 closest countries and identified themselves as Israelis they would be lucky to be killed before they could be tortured.
But yeah, it makes sense to side with the Arabs.
Eric, direct & to the point, love it. After ww2, we took land from a sovereign country & gave it to another people & now irrational Xtians & Jews will do whatever is necessary to hold that land hoping to bring about the messiah & Judgement Day, just like our whacky friend President Tom in Iran, hoping to usher in the 12th Iman. Israel was such a bad idea, but the worst part about is the deed is done, we’re stuck w/ them & now we should rein them in before they really do bring about the end of the world (i.e. nuclear winter)
Justin-
Jews don’t believe in Judgment Day. That’s Christians (New Testament) not Jews (Old Testament).
Also, the land that is Israel was not taking from a sovereign nation unless you mean England since the British had a mandate over it.
And by the way, the Israelis blew up the Iraqi nuclear reactor in a move that they pretty much did because we told them to. So they are kind of preventing Nuclear Winter.
Guest, my bad, just trying to point out the absurdity of why people want to protect Israel. & make no mistake, the belief in a god & a land promised to a certain ethnic group by said god is absurd. Re: British Mandate, sorta reminds me of a certain mandate in Islam, dar-al-Islam (something like that), how Muslims believe it is their duty to spread Islam. How do you feel about that mandate? Probably about the same as early 20th century Palestinians felt about the British. Third, Iran, not Iraq.
Justin-
The bottom line is that however you slice it that land belongs to the Jews. Either it is theirs because they lived there for thousands of years until they were kicked out, it’s theirs because it was given to them by the British Empire who ruled the land in 1948, or it is theirs because they won it rightfully in war. Let’s also not overlook the fact that Israel legally (according to international law, a country is allowed to keep land won in a defensive war) expanded their borders during the Six Day War to 26 thousand square miles. They have given back all but 8 thousand square miles of land in “land for peace” but they get no peace.
Not sure what you’re talking about with British and Islamic Mandates being the same. The British don’t threaten to kill all the people who don’t believe in the queen.
Also, it was Iraq. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Opera
Guest: Perhaps I’ve just been misinformed. But, you’re saying that the people in Gaza who aren’t allowed to import chocolate or notebooks are allowed to vote in Israel’s national elections?
BL1Y-
Why would those people vote in Israeli elections? They vote in Palestinian elections. However, there are Palestinian Arabs who live in Israel proper. They vote, have jobs, and are people, just like Jews who are upstanding members of the societies of the surrounding nations. My bad, they’d be brutally murdered within seconds of identification.
And by the way, the people in Gaza can import chocolate and notebooks. In fact the Israelis give them pretty much everything they need (food, medical supplies, you name it) because they use much of their money to buy guns, rockets, and stuff to kill Jews instead of things they actually need. If you read about the flotilla you know that all those supplies actually get to the Palestinians as well.
Oh, and they use those Palestinian elections to elect terrorist groups as their leaders. Not suspected terrorists. Actual admitted, internationally recognized, wanted, terrorists.
Guest: Well shit, why should Texans get to vote for President? They vote for Texas Governor and the Texas legislature. Gaza is not its own nation. It is a territory of Israel, and because of that, it is a territory whose residents are not allowed to vote in the government that has control over them.
And, unless the BBC and NPR both got the story drastically wrong, Gazans are not allowed to important anything they want. Tahini and shoes were only allowed to be imported in March of this year. Conrete, lumber, and other construction supplies are still largely prohibited. Israel has allowed in basic humanitarian aid, but it has not allowed in everything that’s not a weapon.
PS: The crimes of a neighboring country never justify the crimes of your own. The fact that an American in Japan wouldn’t have lasted very long doesn’t make our internment camps here any more justified. We’re not graded on a curve.
Right on the money Paul. The same book that grants them the right to that land also documents there destruction of other ethnic groups. But again we are covering up the issue. There were people living there when it was decided to make this there home. The handling of the whole thing has created the “Muslim radicals”.
BL1Y-
You seem to have things a bit mixed up. Israel doesn’t run Gaza from the inside. The Palestinians have their own police and government out there. It’s not like Texas. Israel simply inspects stuff coming in and restricts what goes out. They also send in things that the Palestinians need like the food and medical supplies. The people inside have elections to elect their terrorist leaders. Those leaders choose to spend money on things to kill Jews instead of things like hospitals and food because they know that Israel will be forced to give them the medical and nutritional help by the media if the Palestinians don’t have it. It doesn’t matter why.
Also, saying that the sins of surrounding countries shouldn’t be factored in is crazy because they are the same as with Gaza. A Jew can’t walk down a street in Saudi Arabia just like a Jew can’t walk down a street in Gaza. Meanwhile, there are Arabs living in Israel who are parliament members.
Again, we really should cut the Israelis more slack. They are dealing with a situation where they are trying to handle a population that is bent on killing them all. Not just the army, civilians. Don’t think that the Palestinians really want the land either. They were offered more than they currently have and turned it down.
It’s amazing to me that anybody can say anything in defense of people who promote suicide bombing, use children as shields, put military bases in the basements of hospitals, and fire rockets from the roofs of schools into civilian areas.
I don’t think anyone is defending the people who shoot rockets from the rooftops of schools. But, populations are not homogeneous.
If the population of Gaza, not just the military, but the bulk of the civilians as well, are seriously trying to destroy Israel, then carpet bomb Gaza. If someone is in your house and trying to kill you, you don’t lock him in the closet and slip him scraps of meat under the door while hoping he doesn’t manage to break free. And you certainly don’t keep him there for 40 years. You kill him, and you’re well within your rights to do so. The fact that this hasn’t happened would suggest that there’s more to it than just that everyone living in Gaza wants to kill Jews.
BL1Y-
The thing is that people used to believe that not all Palestinians wanted to kill Israeli civilians. Then they had elections and elected terrorists in landslides. But ask yourself if Israel could get away with killing these people. Remember how the media treats them. Just look at the flotilla incident. It’s not like antisemitism is new, but sometimes I think we forget how present it is for Jews today.
Israel was basically pressured by the world and the media to give back the land they won in the 6 Day War to all the neighboring countries. Israel was going to be ambushed by all surrounding countries and somehow soundly defeated them all in war. After it was over, the Arabs still wanted all the Israelis dead. But Israel had to give back the land because of world pressure. They gave Egypt back the entire Sinai Pennisula and Suez Canal! That’s Egypt’s entire economy!
Could the Israelis do what they need to do? Sure. But they won’t risk world scrutiny.
If the statistics are right, the Jews constitute but one per cent of the human race. It suggests a nebulous dim puff of star-dust lost in the blaze of the Milky Way. Properly the Jew ought hardly to be heard of; but he is heard of, has always been heard of. He is as prominent on the planet as any other people, and his commercial importance is extravagantly out of proportion to the smallness of his bulk. His contributions to the world’s list of great names in literature, science, art, music, finance, medicine and abstruse learning are also away out of proportion to the weakness of his numbers. He has made a marvelous fight in this world, in all the ages; and has done it with his hands tied behind him. He could be vain of himself, and be excused for it. The Egyptian, the Babylonian, and the Persian rose, filled the planet with sound and splendor, then faded to dream-stuff and passed away; the Greek and the Roman followed, and made a vast noise, and they are gone; other peoples have sprung up and held their torch high for a time, but it burned out, and they sit in twilight now, or have vanished. The Jew saw them all, beat them all, and is now what he always was, exhibiting no decadence, no infirmities of age, no weakening of his parts, no slowing of his energies, no dulling of his alert and aggressive mind. All things are mortal but the Jew; all other forces pass, but he remains. What is the secret of his immortality?
From “Concerning the Jews” by Mark Twain
The “landslide” victory got Hamas 58% of the seats in Gaza’s parliament. In election terms, where all you need is 50+1, that’s a huge margin. But, when trying to say that everyone in Gaza wants to destroy Israel, that’s not enough to go on (especially when the party that was voted out had destroying Israel as its #1 agenda item).
If you tried to impart the beliefs of Obama (who won the biggest margin of votes in 20 years) to the entire US, you’d think everyone here was an active, practicing Christian, opposed to gay marriage and in love with Harvard elitism.
The three most popular parties in the Palestinian Government that accumulated a combined 90% of the votes in the last election:
Hamas – Plainly and simply terrorists,
Fatah – Recently removed from the official list of terrorist groups, but their stated goal is still “complete liberation of Palestine, and eradication of Zionist economic, political, military and cultural existence.” Their 2009 meetings decided to reaffirm an “armed resistance” and were said to be a blown opportunity and a “huge blow towards peace.” They also have military branches such as the al-Aqsa Martyrs’ Brigades who are responsible for suicide bombings.
Martyr Abu Ali Mustafa (Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine)- Internationally recognized terrorists as well. Last month called for an end to all peace negotiations.
The biggest party who wants peace and democracy is called “The Alternative” and received less than 3% of the vote.
Only two options here:
- either you’re a Jew, spreading the Jewish propaganda or
- a brainwashed goy, who is swallowing everything that a Jew serves to you via his media.
Don’t say Israel is arguably better off than the countries around them. They are much better off. They also have a legitimate democracy and are a modernized country in general.
Legitimate democracy should never be used in the same sentence with Jews.
Also, I don’t really think that US is allied with Israel because we need them. We are allied with them because they are reasonable people.
Again, I am well aware of the blind, dumb, brainwashed non Jews, who, like good slaves repeat the Jewish mantra, but this one stinks too much like chutzpah.
Jews are reasonable people?! Wow.
I believe they want peace and have proved that by giving up land and aid to Palestinians despite the fact that they are still attacked by people who use ambulances to run weapons and hide military bases in schools and hospitals.
You believe the stealing Jews wanna give up anything, much less the land they stole in the first place? Have you seen lately the map of the Palestine/Israel and compared it to the land before 1948?
Palestinians use ambulances to run weapons? Damn, I didn’t know Palestinians were so high tech with their weapons. No wonder that the Jews, with their hundreds of atomic bombs, and an American military arsenal, made and paid by American people, are so afraid of Palestinian ambulances of weapons.
And let’s not forget the rocks that Palestinians throw at poor defenseless Jews.
Are you THAT stupid or do you think everyone else is that stupid to fall for this Jewish propaganda?
People can criticize the blockade and the wall and the checkpoints but the bottom line is that they have stopped terrorist attacks. If this was the case inside the US, nobody would argue.
Oh REALLY?! Arizona is trying to protect its borders and Americans in their own country, and you’re claiming no one is arguing?!
This is how it really and truly goes out there in the real world. Jews can do as please, but the moment Whites wanna defend their countries, we are called racists, who do not wanna fall for the multi – culti propaganda they’ve been selling for decades.
How can a Palestinian be a terrorist for being in his own country, defending his people from intruders, who have the the best arsenal an American can make and pay for?!
How about a terrorist attack by the Jews on USS Liberty?! In international waters nonetheless?!
How do we, White people, defend ourselves from Jewish terrorism, in our our countries?!
No, really. Either you’re a Jew, or someone, whose brain has been fried by JewMedia.
Helen Thomas has a history of anti-Semitic remarks and of accusing Israeli’s of every crime short of genocide. This was not some off the cuff remark from her. With her history, this remark is much more likely her accidently letting slip her true feelings. And, by the way, Israel has been the homeland of the Jewish people for much longer than 60 years. It was not arbitrarily granted to them, it was chosen for a reason.
I’d love to hear the reason why it was chosen for the chosen ones.
Lemme guess? After WWII, when Jews suffered so much, the world decided, upon white guilt, to give them Palestine.
Right. I suggest you inform yourself what really happened. If you’re not a Jew, that is. If you are, then I know what you’re doing.
@Eric:
Can’t we all just admit that it is a ridiculous notion to claim rights to a geographical location on a work of fiction and then using that claim as a justification to re-establish a country is absurd?
Which work of fiction, exactly? The Bible fiction or Holocaust ”oy vey” fiction?
Both were started, created, produced by the same race – Jews.
Yep, a Jew.
Justin-
Jews don’t believe in Judgment Day. That’s Christians (New Testament) not Jews (Old Testament).
I suggest you start believing in a Judgment day. Whites are waking up en masse. The propaganda is wearing off.
Also, the land that is Israel was not taking from a sovereign nation unless you mean England since the British had a mandate over it.
Britain has been hijacked by the Jews a long time ago. Britain in itself had NO right to have any kind of mandate over Middle Eastern country. British people have nothing to do with this; we KNOW who controls Britain.
And by the way, the Israelis blew up the Iraqi nuclear reactor in a move that they pretty much did because we told them to. So they are kind of preventing Nuclear Winter.
Who is WE?! Are you trying to sell (at high interest at that) a lie that Israelis did something because Americans told them?!
Are you trying to sell a lie that poor good Israelis are the ones preventing a nuclear winter? Israelis? The ones that have hundreds of nuclear bombs, threatening Europe to exterminate us?
The ones that are attacking American ships?!
Israel can have hundreds of atomic bombs but Iran cannot? Really? Hypocritical much?
When the world finally wakes up to the Jewish problem, it will be end game. If the Jews really think the world will continue to be blackmailed and threatened by the Jews, they are sorely mistaken. I’m well aware that the Jews would think nothing of destroying the whole world if the world stops dancing to their tune, but I am also convinced the world will win, with certain casualties, as always when dealing with Jews, against 30 million greedy, evil parasites.
We will have no other choice. And it will be high time.
The bottom line is that however you slice it that land belongs to the Jews. Either it is theirs because they lived there for thousands of years until they were kicked out, it’s theirs because it was given to them by the British Empire who ruled the land in 1948, or it is theirs because they won it rightfully in war. Let’s also not overlook the fact that Israel legally (according to international law, a country is allowed to keep land won in a defensive war) expanded their borders during the Six Day War to 26 thousand square miles. They have given back all but 8 thousand square miles of land in “land for peace” but they get no peace.
Not sure what you’re talking about with British and Islamic Mandates being the same. The British don’t threaten to kill all the people who don’t believe in the queen.
Hilarious hypocrisy.
In every White country, there’s a Jew importing non Whites. Always in the front lines, screaming how racist Whites are for not allowing to be run over by non Whites.
Jews can build (paid by Americans) walls, Americans cannot defend their borders without some Goldstein screaming how it’s racist.
A Jew (Sarkozy)intruder in a White country is bitching how Whites must breed with non Whites.
Africa for Africans. India for Indians. Middle East for Middle Eastern. Israel for Jews.
White countries for everyone but Whites. Jewish propaganda and hypocrisy at its best.
Jews have been kicked out numerous times, all over the world. For the same MO.
Time is ripe again. Get the hell out of every White country. If it’s the bottom line that Jews have the right (and they don’t, which I am sure the Arab countries will show you sooner rather than later) to have Israel, then Whites have the right to live in White countries and you will pack your golden bags and leave for glorious Israel.
Again, we really should cut the Israelis more slack.
Wow.
The problem that we are dealing is, is a direct result for cutting Jews too much slack. You infiltrated, again after being kicked out, into our countries, created Jewish banks, started and financed wars, spread lies with your propaganda, blackmailed us.
The times we are living now, are the times where Jews are being cut less and less slack. Due to people waking up after being informed of what you really are and what you’re doing. Words sometimes cannot describe you nor your actions.
They are dealing with a situation where they are trying to handle a population that is bent on killing them all. Not just the army, civilians. Don’t think that the Palestinians really want the land either. They were offered more than they currently have and turned it down.
Unbelievable! The chutzpah!
Jews are bent on killing Whites! Forcing 10% of the world population into accepting non Whites into our lands. Blackmailing us with white guilt. Stealing money, homes, lands from us. Spreading egalitarian propaganda (which you despise so much in Israel) in White countries only, yet at the same time, in all your hypocritical glory claiming you are the superior race, and throwing labels, such as ”white supremacists” at those, who have your number, who want to defend out lands and our race from you, parasites, bend over on destroying us.
Coming into our lands, demanding we bend over to non Whites, financially supporting non Whites who are destroying our countries, raping our women.
And then you turn around and whine about Palestinians breeding in numbers.
It’s amazing to me that anybody can say anything in defense of people who promote suicide bombing, use children as shields, put military bases in the basements of hospitals, and fire rockets from the roofs of schools into civilian areas.
Wow. This coming from Jews, who have hundreds of atomic bombs and high tech military, made and paid by Americans.
You stormed into THEIR homes, and now you’re doing chutzpah, in all its Jewish glory, how you’re the victims?! They are defending their homes with rocks against stealing parasites, who are shooting their pregnant women!
You’re selling the Jewish propaganda how you didn’t steal all that much land, when anyone can see the map from 1948 and now. Seriously, a Jew moves his lips and he’s lying.
All this coming from a race that owns the banks of the world, steals from everyone, creates poverty, starts and finances wars, and is waging a brutal war not only against Palestinians in their own homes, but against Whites in our own homes.
It is true. A jew will throw a bomb on others and cry what a victim he is.
There are no words for you. Actually, well, there is. A Jew.
For fuck’s sake, this is never ending! The audacity!
The thing is that people used to believe that not all Palestinians wanted to kill Israeli civilians. Then they had elections and elected terrorists in landslides.
The thing is that people used to believe that not all Jews are greedy money chargers, who wanna destroy the world. Then internet happened, and people started finding the truth.
The audacity, I swear!
But ask yourself if Israel could get away with killing these people. Remember how the media treats them.
Oh my gracious goodness! Just when I think I’ve seen it all when it comes to Jews!
Remember how the MEDIA treats THEM?! Them? The Jews own the media! The propaganda! Damn!
The only thing that comes from media is what serves the agenda of media’s owners – the Jews.
Where’s the media when it comes to USS Liberty? Federal Reserve? The Rothschilds? The planned genocide against Whites?
Just look at the flotilla incident. It’s not like antisemitism is new, but sometimes I think we forget how present it is for Jews today.
This, people, is how the Jews do it. Anti – Semitism for American audience, and Holocaust for European audience.
The moment you speak the truth about Jews, it’s anti – Semitism and Holocaust. Seen too many times to count.
They will always hide behind it. They will always blackmail you with. And they will always try to silence you with it.
Watch and learn.
I put a link to a video where one of them admits to it: it’s a trick they use.
Jews attacked USS Liberty. Jews’ reaction? It’s anti – Semitism. It’s Holocaust.
It’s not working anymore!
Israel was basically pressured by the world and the media to give back the land they won in the 6 Day War to all the neighboring countries.
Pay attention to this. Israel has PRESSURED the WORLD. And the media. Which they own to spread propaganda.
Pay attention what the Jews spread. Read between the lines. Watch and learn.
Israel was going to be ambushed by all surrounding countries and somehow soundly defeated them all in war. After it was over, the Arabs still wanted all the Israelis dead. But Israel had to give back the land because of world pressure. They gave Egypt back the entire Sinai Pennisula and Suez Canal! That’s Egypt’s entire economy!
Awwww, how nice of those Jews.
And what’s Jewish entire economy? Sucking the blood out of USA and Europe via your thieving banks.
Could the Israelis do what they need to do? Sure. But they won’t risk world scrutiny.
Unbelievable. They have been doing what they ”needed” to do for decades, centuries. World scrutiny?! They didn’t have to worry about the world scrutiny as long as TV was the only media, the only propaganda machine. And they own it.
What coming is not a world scrutiny. But something totally different.
People, watch and learn how they do it.
So…the people who said that Israel should lighten up on the blockade were generally accused of being antisemitic and sympathizing with terrorists.
But, now Israel is easing up on the blockade. Does this mean I can accuse the government of Israel of hating Israelis?
I know it’s late but a history lesson for all involved here.
The most important quote is one from Zeev Jabotinsky “The Arabs have a good appetite [for countries] and a good appetite is nice, but the Jews are starving.”
Pre 1850s- Jews live in small populations in holy cities across Palestine including Safed, Hebron, and Jerusalem.
1867- Mark Twain travels to Palestine writes “The Innocents Abroad” says that very few people live in Palestine and that the land is mostly swamp.
1880s- First Aliyah. Russian Jews move en masse to Israel to get away from pogroms. According to Wikipedia the number is between 25-35,000.
1890s- After witnessing the Dreyfuss Affiar Theodore Herzl writes “The Jewish State” saying that Jews need a state in order to be safe because even in “enlightened” countries like France anti-semitism still clearly exists.
1905- World Zionist Congress rejects the offer of Britain to give Jews the land of Uganda (actually modern day Kenya) in order to get Palestine for their state.
1900s- Second Aliyah. Jews start to work the land and not just hire Arabs. The beginning of the Kibbutz movement, more Jews come to Israel and establish actual population bases there. Such as Rishon Le’Tzion, Petach Tikvah, Rosh Pina, Metula, and Tel Aviv.
1917- Balfour Declaration. The British Lord Balfour declares that Britain shall help establish a Jewish State in Palestine. British say similar thing for Arabs and Palestine.
1920s- More Jews arrive in Palestine and create an unkick-outable economic base and population base. Open clashes between Jews and Arabs commence.
1921- First violent confrontation between Jews and Arabs take place in Jaffa where Arabs use two rival May Day parades as an excuse to start raiding Jewish land and businesses.
1928- In response to a British ruling saying that Jews and Arabs are allowed in Jerusalem. Jews go to Western Wall to pray where they are met with glass bottles, rocks, and other projectiles from Arabs who were planted there.
1929- Arabs go into old Jewish populations in Hebron and Safed and massacre them and force them out of the cities.
1931- Britain says that unlimited Jewish immigration to Palestine cannot continue as it is unsustainable, creates quotas for Jews.
1933- Restrictions lifted, Hitler comes into power in Germany.
(irrelevant history to the conflict but incredible to think about nonetheless)
1934- Ben Gurion signs the Haarava Agreement with Hitler allowing Jews to exit Germany and enter Palestine. So yes the Jews made a deal with the devil.
1936-1939- Arab Revolt in Palestine is suppressed by combined Jewish/British forces. In response to White Paper is written that severely limits Jewish immigration until 1943, after which all immigration must cease.
1938- Kristalnacht. Britain proposes state where Jews get Haifa and surrounding area, Arabs reject it saying they will not accept a Jewish state the size of a postage stamp.
1939- WWII begins
1941- Holocaust begins in full force.
1945- War ends.
1946-48- Holocaust survivors and other Jews in Europe try to move to Israel but are not allowed in by British. They try to enter illegally anyway. Irgun bombs the King David Hotel, and does other terrorist actions (but they do warn the inhabitants first). Jews fight Arabs, Arabs fight Jews, both fight the British. Chaos ensues in Palestine.
November 29, 1947- British give up and call for a UN vote for a partition of Palestine. Approximately half to each side based on population boundaries and the Jews get the unusable and awful desert to guarantee half. UN votes in favor. If one wants to look at partition plan map the whole southern part that the Jews get is all desert that is used for nothing and has been for as long as farming has existed.
November 30, 1947- Arabs declare war on Jews and start attacking them. Jews do retaliate and at some point the Dar Yassin massacre occurs.
May 14, 1948- Israel declares independence. Populations at the time. Jews = over 600,000. Arabs = over 1.2 million. 5 Arab nations Egypt, Iraq, Lebanon, Jordan, and Syria declare war on the new state immediately. The US is the first state to recognize Israeli independence, the USSR is the second.
1948-1949- Israeli War of Independence/Al Nakba, depending upon the side. Israel wins the war and gets a state that has more land than guaranteed by UN partition plan. Both Jewish and Palestinian refugee problem begin.
So that’s the history of Israel was founded.
Key things to remember, at the time of the founding of the state there were 600,000 Jews, there are now approximately 5 million Jews in Israel. Throughout the founding of the state of Israel the Arabs were the aggressors, not the Jews. This trend continued until 1982 and since then it has been a lot more muddled.
The problem with the conflict is that up until 1982 almost all the actions the Jews did were justified and Israel was in the right. After 1982, outside of terrorist bombings on civilians, the Arabs have been in the right. It’s somewhat impossible to rectify the two different situations in history so us Jews tend to focus on the good.
Also anybody who is not an anarchist and challenges the legitimacy of Israel for any reason needs to challenge the legitimacy of every other nation on Earth. The US stole our land from the Indians, the British got their land by taking from the Saxons, who took it from the Romans, who took it from the native Britons. The Aryans came in and drove out the native Indians from India. The Han Chinese invaded all of modern China and killed off all other inhabitants. Russia is called the Prison House of Nations for a reason. The Japanese killed off the native Ainu hunter-gatherers. Saudi Arabia was formed when the US allied with the Saud family to kill off a rival family that the British were supporting. Jordan was formed when the British gave the Hashimite family half of the Palestinian mandate. Everybody knows about how messed up the borders of African countries are. And so on. To challenge the legitimacy of one nation state and not others is not just hypocritical but borders on extreme stupidity.
That is why it is anti-semitic to challenge the legitimacy of Israel because only the Jewish state can be illegitimate but all other states are legitimate? That’s just simply not true. Either they are all legitimate or all illegitimate, choose one. That being said to say the Israeli government sucks and should be changed or that the Palestinians are being unfairly or any other number of accusations against Israeli policy are legitimate and should be welcomed.
The attack on the flotilla was wrong. Other Isreali actions have also been wrong and they will continue to be wrong but that does not mean that the State of Israel should not exist. It merely means it needs a new government (sort of like Bush and Iraq).
…as I read this, and with an expression of disgust shake my head at relentless typical Jewish propaganda machine.
I know it’s late but a history lesson for all involved here.”
A Jew is, yet again and once more, giving us a history lesson. Question is: how many more Jewish lessons before we wake up?
There’s history and then there’s Jewish lying propaganda history, shoved down our throats, and forced upon us to be accepted and repeated, lest we be dragged through mud, with typical oy vey propaganda of us being racists and anti – semits, and even being thrown in jail – for speaking what a Jew fears and hates the most – truth!
Russian Jews move en masse to Israel to get away from pogroms. According to Wikipedia the number is between 25-35,000.
Once propaganda wears off, the world will be free to hear the REASONS why Jews have been thrown out of every corner of the Earth.
After witnessing the Dreyfuss Affiar Theodore Herzl writes “The Jewish State” saying that Jews need a state in order to be safe because even in “enlightened” countries like France anti-semitism still clearly exists.
And again, more of oy veying, more blackmailing, more drugging through mud of European countries. We can only speak of a country being finally enlightened when its people wake up, see the light of what the Jew really is, and according to laws of nature and self preservation, acts upon it.
Jews, in their supremacist arrogance and hypocrisy, do not entertain a possibility of other races and nations having the right to their own countries; no one’s existence matters to the Jew, especially not when there’s printed money to be made.
1905- World Zionist Congress rejects the offer of Britain to give Jews the land of Uganda (actually modern day Kenya) in order to get Palestine for their state.
Of course it rejects! The Rothschilds had their greedy fingers on Palestine all along. Britain was (and still is) controlled via banks by Rothschilds, so all these fairy tales of Britain offering Uganda, were just that – propaganda for the masses.
1917- Balfour Declaration. The British Lord Balfour declares that Britain shall help establish a Jewish State in Palestine. British say similar thing for Arabs and Palestine.
Shortly after Jews usurped USA with their Federal Reserve. The Britain, being under control via Jewish banks of Jews, assumes the audacity to declare Jews having a right to a country that does not belong to them.
Here we bump into another lie of the Jews: that they got (stole) Palestine as world’s mea culpa for eternal blackmailing suffering of the Jews aka Holohoax. No. Jews had it all planned long before: The Rothschilds will finance Hitler to nearly destroy Europe, will sacrifice, so to speak, a few thousands of the Jews from the bottom of the totem pole, create incredible tale of exact 6 million Jews (first, they toyed with an idea of 11 million), which would be used as an excuse for Holohoax and for decades as their eternal blackmail: from untold trillions of money, to having a carte blanche for every incomprehensible deed the Jews would unleash onto the world.
The Rothschilds easily survived bad Hitler; even more: they went on, straight according to their own plan, to bring immeasurable destruction upon the world.
1921- First violent confrontation between Jews and Arabs take place in Jaffa where Arabs use two rival May Day parades as an excuse to start raiding Jewish land and businesses.
Incomprehensible chutzpah! Force yourself into someone else’s home, steal his home and whine when the owners fight back, and make sure you paint yourself as the victim. Jewish history in one sentence.
1931- Britain says that unlimited Jewish immigration to Palestine cannot continue as it is unsustainable, creates quotas for Jews.
A lie. Britain, again, was controlled via Jewish banks by Jews. This very same lie, we’ve been listening for nearly a century. One only has to look at today’s map of Palestine, to see how Jews, step by step stole nearly the whole land, while serving us lies such as the one above. If you throw a frog into boiling water, it will jump out. If you slowly add hotter water, it will burn alive. Jews have been boiling us alive for a long long time.
At the same time, they are forcing us to do in OUR lands what they won’t allow in their stolen Palestine: more and more mass non European immigration into Europe, as well as USA.
1933- Restrictions lifted, Hitler comes into power in Germany.
(irrelevant history to the conflict but incredible to think about nonetheless)
On a contrary! Extremely relevant to the history and the conflict!
And yes, incredible to think how Hitler worked with Rothschilds in their pathological quest to murder as many Europeans as possible (tens and tens of millions, with even more injured) and nearly destroyed the land of Europeans. Countries going into incredible debts, all financed, with, of course, incredible high Jewish interest rates, and thus tightening the noose around Europe’s neck even more. And out of this European tragedy (into which USA was forced, via Jewish media propaganda, and financed by Rothschilds as well), the audacity of Jewish eternal victim – hood was born. The Holohoax, eternal blackmailing force and indigestible insult to the real victims: Europeans and Americans, as well as Japanese.
Hitler didn’t touch Rothschilds; he did however provoke mass murder, and imprisoned Europeans in concentration camps. And we, Europeans, do not have to LIE about numbers. We, Europeans, do not even want to talk about it – when you live through it, you wanna forget about it, and you most certainly do not make untold trillions out of it. If it doesn’t happen to you, you get to LIE and blackmail and make money out of it (Wiesel, anyone?!)
1934- Ben Gurion signs the Haarava Agreement with Hitler allowing Jews to exit Germany and enter Palestine. So yes the Jews made a deal with the devil.
Are you sure you’re not forgetting one REALLY important thing that happened in 1934? Like: ”Judea declares WAR on Germany”?!
A lie, that Jews needed approval to move out of Germany. Jews have not been welcomed anywhere; why the hell would they need approval to leave?!
Hitler was the devil for Europe and Europeans. For Jews, they couldn’t have wished for a better FRIEND.
1938- Kristalnacht. Britain proposes state where Jews get Haifa and surrounding area, Arabs reject it saying they will not accept a Jewish state the size of a postage stamp.
And look what happened out of that ”size of a postage stamp”!
Kristalnacht. Aren’t you forgetting WHAT triggered Kristalnacht?! Aren’t you forgetting WHO started it? Aren’t you forgetting what Kristalnacht was a RESPONSE to?! Oh, of course. You Jews never do anything wrong, and you’re the eternal victim.
4 years after your dear Hitler ”allowed” you to leave Germany, you were STILL in even bad Germany?!
1941- Holocaust begins in full force.
Actually, no. A European civil war, created in the House of Rotshchilds, begins its immense tragedy in full force. A neighbor provoked against a neighbor, via the Jewish propaganda: through deception thou shalt wage war as Mossad’s motto goes.
Holohoax begins in full force AFTER WWII, with fake Nurenberg trials (where Jews brought FAKE shrinked human heads!). After that, Jewish Hollywood and Jewish media takes matters into their own hands, producing untold numbers of propaganda material to brainwash masses: from movies to books. Untold museums are built, with the world being, daily, brainwashed and blackmailed with millions of Holohoax survivors (seriously, just HOW bad could Hitler have been for the Jews, since there are more Holohoax survivors then there were Jews in the first place?!) and their fake stories, which are being busted for their lies on a daily basis. And then internet happened, and FREE from Jewish propaganda and lies truth started dripping out in every corner of the world, and Jews started JAILING (and murdering, as it’s Jewish practice) people in their OWN countries for researching and naturally not only doubting, but straight out knowing it’s a lie, this great Holohoax industry.
1946-48- Holocaust survivors and other Jews in Europe try to move to Israel but are not allowed in by British. They try to enter illegally anyway. Irgun bombs the King David Hotel, and does other terrorist actions (but they do warn the inhabitants first). Jews fight Arabs, Arabs fight Jews, both fight the British. Chaos ensues in Palestine.
Here come the Holohoax survivors. How on Earth didn’t Hitler gas all of them in those camps? And OTHER Jews? You mean the ones who are today making lotsa money by being Holohoax survivors by proxy simply for being Jews? There’s no business like shoah business, uh?
Now, this one is something everyone reading this should pause and give it another thought of just HOW Jews brainwash people and how they manage to make themselves look righteous while massacring people. Please, do take a moment:
Irgun bombs the King David Hotel, and does other terrorist actions (but they do warn the inhabitants first).
Jews do terrorist actions BUT they warn the inhabitants FIRST. Don’t you just love kind and carrying Jews? Because surely, terrorists aim to clear the place before they bomb some hotel, don’t they? I’m sure they warned American brave soldiers on USS Liberty before they proceeded with hours long massacre.
91 people died in Jewish terrorist attack on that hotel, with more than 50 injured. It’s not really Jewish fault that those suckers didn’t pick up the phone or didn’t care of they will be blown up. Right? Boy, do Jews love to bomb hotels and buildings. They’ve been getting better at it, too.
Also, note the Jew’s double speak: Jews wanted to move to Israel and then chaos ensued in PALESTINE.
And boy, a year after surviving Holohoax, they were already strong enough and had enough weapons to fight the Arabs and Brits. While Europeans haven’t even started licking the terrible wounds from WWII.
A quick lesson on Irgun:
Rahm Emmanuel’s father (the actual president of the USA and a puppet master of the Obama Messiah) was a member of Irgun. Irgun was massacring Palestinians, starting in year 1931. A plan to steal Palestine had been in works long before the Jewish propaganda wants us to believe (how they got Palestine for being such victims of WWII).
What out dear Jew here jewishly forgot to mention for year 1948 is a massacre of 600 innocent people, known as Deir Yassin massacre. As per Jewish practice, neither women nor children were spared the true Jewish colors.
As an intermezzo: today, they love to shoot pregnant Palestinian women; calling it ”one shot two kills”; they even wear t-shirt with this saying!
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/Israeli-Army-T-Shirts-Mock-Killing-Palestinian-Women-And-Children-During-Gaza-Offensive/Article/200903315245946
November 29, 1947- British give up and call for a UN vote for a partition of Palestine. Approximately half to each side based on population boundaries and the Jews get the unusable and awful desert to guarantee half. UN votes in favor. If one wants to look at partition plan map the whole southern part that the Jews get is all desert that is used for nothing and has been for as long as farming has existed.
And again, poor Jews, They ”got” unusable and awful desert. Again, to everyone reading this propaganda and chutzpah: take a look at Palestine/Israel map TODAY. That ”little” unusable and awful desert that poor victims called the Jews were ”given” – look into what it had grown, and ponder how Jews always planned this big steal and never had any plans to obey ANY international laws. Do not fall for the propaganda – use your eyes! Everything you need to know is in front of your eyes, since the truth cannot be hidden anymore!
November 30, 1947- Arabs declare war on Jews and start attacking them. Jews do retaliate and at some point the Dar Yassin massacre occurs.
Now the Jew mentions Deir Yassin massacre. Please, pay attention to the wording. Deir Yassin massacre OCCURS. It just occurs. On its own. Jews had nothing to do with it. It wasn’t the Jews who DID the massacring. No. The massacre OCCURS.
He does give a back story how Arabs declared a war (heh) on poor Jews. Arabs in fact did not agree on more stealing of THEIR land, and if you do not allow the Jews to steal form you, they treat it as a declaration of war (USS Liberty anyone?!) after which they proceed to massacre innocent civilians, including women and children. One shot, two kills.
”Through deception thou shalt wage war.” Mossad motto
May 14, 1948- Israel declares independence. Populations at the time. Jews = over 600,000. Arabs = over 1.2 million. 5 Arab nations Egypt, Iraq, Lebanon, Jordan, and Syria declare war on the new state immediately. The US is the first state to recognize Israeli independence, the USSR is the second.
3 years after WWII, while Europe is still demolished, people wounded and in immense pain, Jews have already been massacring in another part of the world, stole land from Palestinians and already declared Israel! This is how fast it went with those poor suffering Holohoax survivors. 600,000 of them at THAT! What kinda cleaning of the Jews was this anyway?!
The USA is the first, USSR second to recognize Israel’s independence. USA being firmly under Jewish occupation, mainly and mostly with owning Federal Reserve. USSR, an artificial creature, firmly under Jewish occupation. The Jews waged a brutal war, with their communism, in USSR. 20 million Russians were murdered under Jewish Red Terror (see the pattern?!); they especially loved torturing Russians in gulags; 10 million Ukrainians STARVED to death by Jews.
Of a total of 502 offices of first rank in the organisation and direction of the Communist revolution in Russia and in the direction of the Soviet State during the first years of its existence, no less than 459 posts are occupied by Jews, while only 43 of these offices have been occupied by Gentiles of different origin.
Same Jewish communist terror was in other countries, which were forced, via Jewish propaganda, into communism: Hungary, Rumania, Czechoslovakia, Yugoslavia, Poland. Jews were in charge.
Just because Western Europe and USA weren’t officially under communism, they were and still are under Jewish control: from banks to politics to media and all the blackmail and propaganda that comes with it; Holohoax being the leading trade mark.
So that’s the history of Israel was founded.
No. That’s the lying Jewish propaganda. Which is on its last legs, due to the truth coming out to people who have been brainwashed for decades or threatened.
Key things to remember, at the time of the founding of the state there were 600,000 Jews, there are now approximately 5 million Jews in Israel. Throughout the founding of the state of Israel the Arabs were the aggressors, not the Jews. This trend continued until 1982 and since then it has been a lot more muddled.
Key thing to remember: THIS above is Jewish propaganda. A Jew cries when he’s bombing you. He is always the victim, and what a profitable this victimhood has been for the Jew. Note how he claims that Arabs were ALWAYS aggressors, NEVER Jews. Once you know the REAL Jew and once you know the truth, once you know who owns and controls the banks, who was behind brutal bloody ideologies, and who has always profited – you will know in what state the world is in. Internet has pushed the Jewish clock all the way to 5 minutes till midnight. That’s why you will see more and more of Jews like this one, prowling internet sites, blogs and message boards, to spread their lying propaganda and call anyone, who calls them out on their lies, a typical arsenal of Jewish propaganda: white supremacist, nazi, anti semite, racist etc. The truth cannot and WILL not be stopped.
The problem with the conflict is that up until 1982 almost all the actions the Jews did were justified and Israel was in the right. After 1982, outside of terrorist bombings on civilians, the Arabs have been in the right. It’s somewhat impossible to rectify the two different situations in history so us Jews tend to focus on the good.
Please, play attention. Everything the Jews do, is justified and right. They are always the victims and they are always the good guys.
One cannot despise enough the following: Us, Jews, tend to focus on the good. Good for WHOM? Palestines? Europeans? Americans?
No, good for Jews and Jews ONLY. Non Jews are, as per Talmud, nothing but cattle to be used for the good of Jews and then massacred. History, present – all carry the facts to support this.
All Jewish action up until 1982 were justified and right.
You, again, forgot to mention what happened in 1967!
June 8th – Jews viciously attack USS Liberty and go on hours long massacre of American soldiers. Not giving a damn, in true Jewish fashion, for Americans, they hoped this FALSE FLAG attack would bring USA into war for Israel. Please, people, educate yourself in how many wars (including today) has USA been dragged because and for Israel! Educate yourself about AIPAC, and how ”American” politicians are swearing full support for Israel and its wars, and how this is destroying USA and the rest of the world. Educate yourself how many politicians have double citizenship – Rahm Emmanuel – (and how is this even possible!), but they serve only Israel. Educate yourself about war criminal Kissinger and what destruction he had brought to many countries all over the world via abusing USA. Educate yourself – because you are being led to the slaughterhouse by the eternal victim and owner of the Federal Reserve and IMF and European bank etc!
Also anybody who is not an anarchist and challenges the legitimacy of Israel for any reason needs to challenge the legitimacy of every other nation on Earth. The US stole our land from the Indians, the British got their land by taking from the Saxons, who took it from the Romans, who took it from the native Britons. The Aryans came in and drove out the native Indians from India. The Han Chinese invaded all of modern China and killed off all other inhabitants. Russia is called the Prison House of Nations for a reason. The Japanese killed off the native Ainu hunter-gatherers. Saudi Arabia was formed when the US allied with the Saud family to kill off a rival family that the British were supporting. Jordan was formed when the British gave the Hashimite family half of the Palestinian mandate. Everybody knows about how messed up the borders of African countries are. And so on. To challenge the legitimacy of one nation state and not others is not just hypocritical but borders on extreme stupidity.
And then, a Jew proceeds with finger pointing: see, other did it too. As yet another mean to justify (!!!) what he’s doing. However, only Jews immediately scream about racism, anti semitism, white supremacism (please, note how he managed to take a dig at ARYANS, clearly showing he either doesn’t know the history of Aryans, or is waging another propaganda lie) when the world points the trutful finger at them. You think the Jew would non – hypocritically give the right to Chinese to accuse him of anti – Chinesm for pointing the fingers at Chinese? No. Neither would he to anyone else he HAD to mention.
And make sure you peep how he calls anyone who would disagree with his propaganda as stupid.
But, for the Jew to accuse anyone of being hypocritical is just priceless. Even though I am sure he would sell it to you, at high interest.
That is why it is anti-semitic to challenge the legitimacy of Israel because only the Jewish state can be illegitimate but all other states are legitimate? That’s just simply not true. Either they are all legitimate or all illegitimate, choose one. That being said to say the Israeli government sucks and should be changed or that the Palestinians are being unfairly or any other number of accusations against Israeli policy are legitimate and should be welcomed.
It never ends with Jews. Anti semitic! Nazi! Racist! White Supremacist! Holocaust!
Double Jewish speak: accusations against Israeli policy should be welcomed. The moment accusations against Israel are said, immediate oy vey of anti semitism is launched. I put a link to this anti semitism and Holocaust propaganda machine in one of my above posts.
The attack on the flotilla was wrong. Other Isreali actions have also been wrong and they will continue to be wrong but that does not mean that the State of Israel should not exist. It merely means it needs a new government (sort of like Bush and Iraq).
Heh. Now that there’s no Bush anymore, there will be Obama and Iran. But, the Jew will put a puppet into the White House, and pull the strings from behind. As it has been done for about a century. Of course, if a President figures out the Jew, speaks against a Jew and does not bend over to Israel for having nukes, a President gets murdered. JFK.
The world is waking up to the truth. The jig is all but up.
Hmmm… a lot of my posts were deleted here. Just noticed this now.
I get it.